Featured Products from our Supporting Vendors. Activity Feed DSMtuners. Join the Community! Chat with others, create a build thread, post questions and answers. Get involved! Logging in will also remove many of the advertisements, along with this notice. Jul 23, 1. Jul 23, 2. You want it as tight as you can get it. Jul 23, 3. Freddyk79 likes this. Jul 24, 4. Adding more preload than you need will reduce available travel.
In an effort to balance spool and resistance to blowing open at high boost against boost creep, I ended up shooting for it being "half a hole" too short. That puts enough preload on it to keep it closed, but allows very close to full travel. Jul 24, 5. Jul 24, 6. Mr Peepers likes this. Jul 24, 7. I just like to keep it tight so I know its not blowing open early, if I get a bad spike or creep up top then I know I mopar vin tag rivets it too tight.
Its all trial and error. Jul 24, 8. It should have gone without saying that using a weak spring to run high boost is ing retarded. The quoted statement assumed a decent actuator was being used. You must log in or sign up to reply here. Show Ignored Content. Share This Page. Your name or email address: Do you already have an account? No, create an account now. Yes, my password is: Forgot your password?Hardware is in place, now I am seeking set-up advice for the VNT actuator.
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This was handy for building the bracket to top-mount the actuator as the rod moves in the correct direction for the turbo's VNT lever. What is not so straight forward is the adjustment. Thinking Jeff's advice might not apply to the newer actuator, I bench-adjusted the new turbo to mimic the old OEM one and the car is real laggy and doesn't build boost until 3K RPM. His advice was for the BEW based on date of thread and it did not seem right to be that far off from stock settings.
Any guidance out there on where to go with it? Will post a log once I get it resealed. Stock actuator settings do not apply with these larger turbos with custom VNT arm and actuator. You need to shorten the actuator quite a bit.
And possibly adjust the stop screw too. After TDIinTexas moved the actuator arm and added a stop screw, he adjusted it on the bench, thought that was all that was required for that particular setting??? If finer tuning can be done, some help identifying the correct procedure would be very appreciated. Is the MityVac the best way to find this setting?
Or is there a better way? Procedure for best practice? Thank you. Find More Posts by dieselpower For setting the stop screw The setting on the bench is only an initial setting, it has to be adjusted on the running car.
Now the VNT is in a calibration mode. Note the boost values when the VNT is fully closed and fully open. You are looking to unjust the to have a 80 millibar difference between off and on. Adjusting the screw out will increase the boost spread, turning the screw in will reduce boost.
Once you have tuned this check you actuator setting. I would start with the VNT at full stroke around 18" vacuum. After this you will have to work with your tuner to fine tune the actuator to match up to the duty cycle and logs.
After each adjustment you should rerun the channel Basic Setting so the smart actuator can learn the parameters of the VNT. THis will help the ECU adapt to the actuator faster than just driving around.Turbochargers are able to compress roughly double the amount of air as a regular engine, so that more fuel can be burned, and as a result, the car can accelerate and move faster.
One solution is to reduce the weight of the rotating parts. This way, the turbine and compressor can accelerate faster. A large turbocharger has a heavy turbine and a weighty compressor. Both take time to rev up. A small-sized turbocharger can give your car a power boost quickly, at lower engine speeds.
But what happens when your car speeds up and needs yet another boost? You step on the gas and lots of air enters the engine, which could potentially cause the small turbocharger to spin like crazy. This is why most automotive turbochargers are installed with a handy little valve, called a wastegate. The wastegate responds to the boost in pressure. If the pressure is too high, this often indicates that the turbine is spinning too quickly. The wastegate fixes the problem by channeling some of the exhaust around the turbine blades in order to slow the turbine down.
Some car owners choose to install both a small and a large turbocharger.
The small turbocharger allows them to accelerate quickly at low speeds, without experiencing any lag, and the large turbocharger gives an added power boost at high speeds. Lag can be further minimized by swapping the standard fluid bearings in the turbocharger, with sophisticated ball bearings.
These ball bearings are designed to be used with a smaller and lighter turbine shaft. They also reduce the friction caused by the spinning, so that the turbocharger can accelerate faster. Do turbochargers help performance in high altitude? How Turbochargers Work. How Endurance Racing Works. How do you make a wastegate adjustment on a turbocharger?
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The turbo shaft speed is controlled by a nozzle ring and vanes which direct air to the turbo Turbine Wheel. As turbo shaft speed reaches optimum speed, the turbo vanes open and allow exhaust gases to pass around the Turbine Wheel and not through the Turbo Blades. If too much air is directed to the Turbine Wheel, the Turbocharger will over speed. This will pump too much air into the engine and cause running issues and possible damage.
Many turbocharged vehicle's ECU can see too much air flow and will put the engine into limp mode. If the Turbo VNT Stop Screw is unscrewed too far, you will if you are lucky find the turbo seems to not be boosting, chances are the engine's ECU has entered limp mode as it can sense the turbo is over boosting.
If you are unlucky, the ECU will not see this and you can destroy the turbo and the engine. This will put excessive load on the engine, cause over fuelling, sticking vanes and can result in turbo failure and again engine damage.
Setting a Turbo VNT Stop Screw is a dangerous job without a dedicated flow bench and isn't something we would recommend. Also, the VNT unison ring and nozzle ring and turbo vanes may have worn, so the increased play will result in incorrect turbo air flow. Turbo Rebuild have a state of the art turbo calibration machine or VNT flow bench.
So your turbo is calibrated, but what about the Turbo Actuator? Over time, the internal spring in your Turbo Actuator can become weak, the diaphragm could stretch or the arm could even stick. Whilst testing, our calibration machine not only tests for vacuum leaks, it also checks for arm operation. Finally, at the testing stage, it confirms two arm positions at set RPM to make sure the turbo will always be in the right place at the right time!
Turbo Rebuild have successfully calibrated s of VNT Turbochargers without issue, and with over turbo settings stored on file, we are confident we can calibrate most VNT Turbos. With Electronic Turbo Actuators, our calibration machine will also test the Electronic Actuator to ensure you do not have a faulty Electronic Actuator. If you have, that's not a problem, we should be able to fix that too!
Actual intake press. RPM is obviously the engine speed, Requested boost is how much boost the turbo should be making according to the map like in the ECU Actual boost is how much boost the turbo is making, measured by the MAP Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. A low duty cycle equates to the ECU asking for more boost from the turbo, and a high duty cycle means the ECU has too much boost already and is requesting the boost be lower. Absolute means it's including atmospheric pressure which is normally around 1 Bar give or take a few millibars.
I don't know how to do it, and this is all the other info I have about it if you are curious:.
Wastegate Actuator rod adjustment (proper tightness)
How a VNT turbo works by using some adjustable vanes inside the turbine housing, it's possible to increase flow over the turbine wheel and speed it up at lower revs, this means it can spool up quicker than the traditional wastegate turbo. Actuator the actuator controls the VNT rod, which controls the VNT mechanism the vanes which ultimately determine the boost the turbo produces. The Vacuum system on your TDI you might get confused faultfinding with the multitude of vacuum hoses you will see scattered around the bay.
Vacuum leak, if you have a vacuum leak then it will be the same as above, sluggish and laggy as the N75 will not be able to apply enough vacuum to the actuator Vacuum Blockage. Checks and Procedures How to check the Vacuum system The most basic way to do this is remove the middle hose from the N75 and suck on it, you should be able to build up enough vacuum to move the VNT lever all the way to the stop screw.
N75's are very reliable, most of the time its something else causing the problem. How to adjust the VNT rod length When these turbos are new straight from Garrett, the rod length and stop screws are setup professionally in accordance with their specifications.
This includes so called "Garrett approved turbo re-builders" most of the time they will just leave them as standard and expect them to work, and they will work most of the time but obviously there is going to be times when they don't.
And because the hybrid turbos are different specifications, the rod length and stop screw specifications from Garrett will no longer apply.
How I do it is remove the TIP and get at it from above, it is possible to do it from below but theres limited space down there too, I prefer the top way. To do this you need to gain access to the turbo either from above or below, remove the 2 X 10mm nuts holding the actuator to the mount, then remove the C-Clip holding the VNT rod onto the VNT lever, and then you can slide the rod off and remove the actuator alltogether.
I used one to stop spiking a year ago, it cured it a little bit but the problem was still there, allbeit masked a little. It basically gives it a bit of a kick. Innotec Turbo clean I don't have personal experience of this, but I am told it works. Posted 22 May - PM.
Also as a side note from what I've seen so far all these TD hybrids surge at around 2k to 2. Posted 23 May - AM. I know I know, not ideal but they have been known to cure sticking vanes. You will need a VAG COM, i'm not sure about the versions, although i'd guess it needs to be a proper licenced cable as i think the shareware ones don't allow you to do logging.
Posted 26 May - AM. Posted 29 May - PM. However, for tuning purposes, 2 groups is best as logging 3 can distort the results somewhat as vagcom has trouble accurately doing that.
One thing i would like to add id that for me i find it easier to think of the vnt as a turbo inside a turbo due to function of the vanes, the vanes allow quick spool up by being closed on idle less lag and opening up on throttle to allow more flow of the turbo.Adjusting Waste Gate
One more thing to add is the vanes are in the open position in its resting postion, this is a fail safe system that the turbo was built, due to the fact that if for any reason the rod, actuator, and more commonly vac line failed the turbo would not over -boost causing possible destruction, so instead it would cause just lag.
Posted 18 June - AM. As you can see guys the Spec. Posted 21 June - PM.While installing the new actuator, we will use a MityVac to calibrate. VNT 15 Turbocharger. TDI Turbo Upgrades. The next thing we need to do is remove the two 10mm nuts that hold the actuator to the bracket. With the nuts out of the way, we can slide the actuator off. We have the old heat shield here that we took off the old actuator, and we need to put it on the new one before we replace the actuator.
Simply line it up and slide it on. You also want to be sure that the lock nut and adjusting screw is loose and easy to turn, because it will be more difficult to turn when we have the actuator attached to the turbo. First thing we want to do is catch the arm of the actuator on the vein lever; and second line up the two studs. Now, add the circlet here. Tighten up the nuts. Attach the MityVac to the actuator and begin pumping.
If you want the actuator to touch the stop earlier, you need to shorten the actuator. If you want it to touch the stop later, you need to lengthen the actuator. This translates to boost for your car as well.
If your car is underboosting, you need to shorten the actuator. Anywhere between inches of mercury should have the rod fully extended, and the rod should start moving at around inches.
Once the adjustment is set, just tighten the locknut. View all posts by idparts. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam.
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